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Greg, let us know the results of the return call. As you know, I am in this camp, too.

I can't wait to hear the news as well. I got 2 XD's and while I have put quite a few rounds through it with no problems, I must say that I am somewhat worried.

Rycerz wrote:

I can't wait to hear the news as well. I got 2 XD's and while I have put quite a few rounds through it with no problems, I must say that I am somewhat worried.

Don't be worried, as I said in my first post. Be sure the grip safety is depresed the whole time. you will never have a problem with it.

ccwinstructor wrote:

Rycerz wrote:

I can't wait to hear the news as well. I got 2 XD's and while I have put quite a few rounds through it with no problems, I must say that I am somewhat worried.

Don't be worried, as I said in my first post. Be sure the grip safety is depresed the whole time. you will never have a problem with it.

I'm a firm believer in Murphy: and now that I know I got to be extra careful Murphy will step in and mess with me

Rycerz wrote:

ccwinstructor wrote:

Rycerz wrote:

I can't wait to hear the news as well. I got 2 XD's and while I have put quite a few rounds through it with no problems, I must say that I am somewhat worried.

Don't be worried, as I said in my first post. Be sure the grip safety is depresed the whole time. you will never have a problem with it.

I'm a firm believer in Murphy: and now that I know I got to be extra careful Murphy will step in and mess with me

It's not Murphy that I worry about... it's Mrs. Murphy.

Welcome RIIID. Thanks for the questions.

RIIID wrote:

After working with this gun for the last 4 years I've seen just about everything imaginable that somebody can do to it. This would be a first and impossible to do the way you have described it.

Rich

Canyon Creek Rich?

I don't know why they would make it so you HAVE to depress the grip safety in order to work the slide and chamber a round... that seems a bit silly to me and looking for an issue like this to happen.

I was the one that pointed out the need to depress the grip safety to Greg (CCWI) and within a day later the other issue reared it's ugly head.

So maybe it is just Law Enforcement types who have this problem

Dan M. wrote:

RIIID wrote:

After working with this gun for the last 4 years I've seen just about everything imaginable that somebody can do to it. This would be a first and impossible to do the way you have described it.

Rich

Canyon Creek Rich?

If so, the very first thing I'm going to do after I get an XD for my wife is send it it to you!

Knauga wrote:

So maybe it is just Law Enforcement types who have this problem

If you ever want to find a flaw in your product design that will completely destroy/disable it, give it to a cop for an hour.

I had the same kind of effect when my work switched to new software... I was the "try to break it" guy... purty darned successful too

RIIID wrote:

Nice story but.....
The grip safety is already depressed to rack it forward.

Is it? I can think of plenty of time's I've racked a slide forward without depressing the grip safety, and it involved more than just an XD. Hand gyrations while reloading are a funny thing.

RIIID wrote:

"Hitting the slide and everything with a hammer", that's no way of fixing a gun.

All due respect, but I don't think the intent was to fix the gun, it was to get it apart and find out why it locked up in the first place.

RIIID wrote:

After working with this gun for the last 4 years I've seen just about everything imaginable that somebody can do to it. This would be a first and impossible to do the way you have described it.

Rich

Well then, it couldn't have happened so it was all a dream. Not only that, it was a bad dream because it happened twice to two different guns. Problem solved!!

See my earlier post about cops finding ways to break things.

You sound like a Mfr rep. Do you work for SA?

45 ACP, I was the one that told Greg about the XD needing the grip safety depressed to rack it. The very next day in a class with LEO, while doing this exact motion, they discovered if it is not all the way depressed throughout the cycle, well, you read the results. Very interesting, indeed. I would have liked to seen it in person.

BTW, do you use an XD? I am not sure what your department uses. I never noticed before. Next time I am inyoru town I will take better care to look.

OCRancher wrote:

45 ACP, I was the one that told Greg about the XD needing the grip safety depressed to rack it. The very next day in a class with LEO, while doing this exact motion, they discovered if it is not all the way depressed throughout the cycle, well, you read the results. Very interesting, indeed. I would have liked to seen it in person.

I agree it's very disturbing. I find it hard to fathom that no one else has found this problem, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen (the point of my last post.........)

OCRancher wrote:

BTW, do you use an XD? I am not sure what your department uses. I never noticed before. Next time I am inyoru town I will take better care to look.

No, not department approved. For any conspiracy theorists out there, it's unrelated to this issue.

Every cop should envy what 45acp carries.

45, I was not disagreeing with you or trying to pick apart anything you said. I was just relaying a conversation about the grip safety Greg and I had the day before. Nowhere in my manual did it mention depressing the grip safety (at all) fully to rack the slide.

Be safe, 45ACP!

OCRancher wrote:

45, I was not disagreeing with you or trying to pick apart anything you said. I was just relaying a conversation about the grip safety Greg and I had the day before. Nowhere in my manual did it mention depressing the grip safety (at all) fully to rack the slide.

Be safe, 45ACP!

I know, I know. I just get spun up when someone says, "Oh, that's just not possible. It's never happened to ME."

Guns are mechanical devices and are subject to failures (however improbable) like anything else.

Guns And Sushi wrote:

Every cop should envy what 45acp carries.

Oh yeah!