California CCW - concealed carry forum

I was at a city-sponsored carnival tonight with the family. I was carrying my G30 in an AIWB holster with an untucked shirt over it. As we approached the main carnival entrance I noticed the signs "All entrants are subject to search" I then noticed two security officers wanding the male would-be carnival goers. I immediately tell my spouse to wait with the kids and I approached one of the private security officers. I discretely show him my permit and explain what it means. He asks if I am armed and I reply "yes". He says that he needs to call a supervisor. The supervisor responds and briefly talks with officer #1. Officer #1 tells me that he is having local PD respond to handle. Two uniformed LEO's arrive from inside the carnival grounds. They greet me and I hand the female officer my permit and CDL. She looks at the permit like it was written in Arabic. She asks me if I am armed to which I reply, "Yes". Her male partner looks over the permit and appears equally confused. He asks me if I am a local business owner. I state "No", and give a brief reason behind my permit issuance. They both seemed satisfied, hand back my info and tell me to enjoy the festivities. I return to my family and we purchase our admission tickets. When I approach the security officer who is conducting the searches, the security supervisor steps in and waves us through, unsearched. My wife later told me that she saw the LEO's staring at my waist as I walked away from them, trying to make me. I'm positive they weren't able to. We had an enjoyable evening and went home.

During my discussion with the local PD, I referenced the acronym LEO and was asked what is an LEO. I clarified Law Enforcement Officer. Seems like that isn't a common phrase around these parts, I guess.

It's a darn shame that the local beat cops haven't been exposed to CCW in this state and realize that law abiding private citizens can carry concealed and what a CCW permit looks like. I wasn't at all treated badly, just like some sort of anomaly.

Glock-Stocken-Barrel wrote:

My wife later told me that she saw the LEO's staring at my waist as I walked away from them, trying to make me. I'm positive they weren't able to. We had an enjoyable evening and went home.

During my discussion with the local PD, I referenced the acronym LEO and was asked what is an LEO. I clarified Law Enforcement Officer. Seems like that isn't a common phrase around these parts, I guess.

It's a darn shame that the local beat cops haven't been exposed to CCW in this state and realize that law abiding private citizens can carry concealed and what a CCW permit looks like. I wasn't at all treated badly, just like some sort of anomaly.

Not sure what is meant by the Officers were trying to 'make you'.

Personally I have encountered Officers/Deputies twice in 14+ years of having my CCW. Each time I present my DL and CCW as ID. In both cases they smiled as they saw the CCW. In one of the incidents I asked if my CCW was proof enough for residence to get back home during the fire storms of 2003 since my DL has a PO Box address on it. The Deputy said 'lady with that you can go were ever you want!!'.

I would personally never refer to a LEO as such simply out of respect, Officer or Deputy with a smile goes along way.

38special wrote:

Glock-Stocken-Barrel wrote:

My wife later told me that she saw the LEO's staring at my waist as I walked away from them, trying to make me. I'm positive they weren't able to. We had an enjoyable evening and went home.

During my discussion with the local PD, I referenced the acronym LEO and was asked what is an LEO. I clarified Law Enforcement Officer. Seems like that isn't a common phrase around these parts, I guess.

It's a darn shame that the local beat cops haven't been exposed to CCW in this state and realize that law abiding private citizens can carry concealed and what a CCW permit looks like. I wasn't at all treated badly, just like some sort of anomaly.

Not sure what is meant by the Officers were trying to 'make you'.

Personally I have encountered Officers/Deputies twice in 14+ years of having my CCW. Each time I present my DL and CCW as ID. In both cases they smiled as they saw the CCW. In one of the incidents I asked if my CCW was proof enough for residence to get back home during the fire storms of 2003 since my DL has a PO Box address on it. The Deputy said 'lady with that you can go were ever you want!!'.

I would personally never refer to a LEO as such simply out of respect, Officer or Deputy with a smile goes along way.

By "make me" I mean trying to determine where the firearm was concealed on my person. There's obviously nothing wrong with Officer, Deputy, or Sir/Madam for that matter, but I'll choose LEO over Cop any day.

GSB